Liberty and Justice continued

For some reason I think that the following got cut from my last message!

Response to True American. What do you mean? What evidence do you have for such silly comments. Why do disagreements about the balances needed to provide the maximum Liberty and Justice turn into this kind of “You Are”, “I’m not” debates. Both are ideals that–as we explain to 4 year-olds–come with responsibilities. Both have to be balanced by the freedom that your freedom may impinge upon. Democracy was the answer that folks fighting for both long ago came up with. It’s a place-holder for a much more complicated discussion about the way both terms work out in real life, who it includes and the trade-offs we’re willing to live with. Since neither of us can point to a Utopia where all this has been finally happily settled, let’s agree that it’s complicated enough to spend more time in school educating for and about it. And maybe it’s worth reading and learning about the many experiments around the world–each in a different context–that have wrestled with this.

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